NEW FIRE STATION…

White Springs gets $600K grant for new fire station

Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:00 am
By Joyce Marie Taylor joycemarie.taylor@gaflnews.com
The town of White Springs received notification from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity on Dec. 4 that additional Small Cities Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds have become available for construction of a new fire station.
The letter states, “The town’s application fell within the expanded fundable range, so the Department is now able to fund the project.”
The town, under former town manager Bob Farley, had applied for CDBG grant funding in the amount of $500,000 in 2013, to build a new fire station in order to meet ISO requirements, but the request was not granted.
Current Town Manager Bill Lawrence said an opportunity arose for the town to reapply for the grant. With the help of Ronald Van Zant of Jordan and Associates, and others, the town updated their point value system and resubmitted their application in October. The acceptance letter from DEO arrived on Dec. 4, with a total of $600,000 awarded to the town of White Springs for a new fire station.
The site location is the same as what Farley had proposed, which is on town property adjacent to town hall, near where the fire truck is currently being housed.
Lawrence said he is in the midst of finalizing all of the documents and Requests for Proposals (RFP’s) will be sent out in February. In March, a contractor will be selected to do the work and Lawrence said he hopes to see construction begin by next summer, with a completion date before the end of 2015, if all goes well.
“I think it’s a big deal for the town,” said Lawrence. “I’m very happy for the residents of White Springs.”
Construction of the fire station improves the town’s overall infrastructure, making it more appealing to both residents and businesses,” said Mayor Helen Miller. “Current and future households and businesses are more likely to invest in White Springs if they can count on a fire department that meets ISO and State Fire Marshall requirements. We appreciate DEO’s support through the Small Cities CDBG program, which is providing funding for the fire station, and the $25,000 in matching funds contributed by the Hamilton County Development Authority.”

QUOTE ON OPEN GOVERNMENT

In Florida, transparency is not up to the whim or grace of public officials. Instead, it is an enforceable right.

— Attorney General Pam Bondi

This is a fact that Bill Lawrence, Helen Miller and especially Walter McKenzie don’t seem to grasp. Well, like the stubborn mule who won’t follow, its time, via another Federal Lawsuit, to get his and their attention.

The Town needs to understand its failures and work to have some success within the Law

Living in White Springs the Town officials and their friends the Camel Club have continually told both Joe and I as to what our failings are. If they do not do so directly, they make certain they use their Camel Club members to do so.  The Town officials fail to see that they have instituted much of the failures of the Town on their own but alas they appear to have not learned from these failures, thus our Town and the citizens therein as well as the officials will never achieve success.

 

You may laugh at the fact that we keep trying to bring transparency and you are angered when we point out the fallacies involved the Town’s workings.  Perhaps it is your unwillingness or inability to learn from your past actions.  You feel only you are right and the Griffins cannot make suggestions to improve what you currently have because that would admit failure.  But what is it that you have?

 

Let’s look at the closing of SHE and the fact that the Mayor desired to start a Charter School.  With Two attorneys assisting her, there were numerous requirements which were not followed.  I can understand a failure the first time but really, a second time?  Joe Griffin really wanted something to work for the Citizens so besides complaining, using your definition, about the conditions of SHE to the Town, he went directly to Martha Butler to see what exactly was required to fix the Charter school requirements so that the second try would be successful.  He printed the information on the blog which required amendments to the original Charter School application but why would anyone listen to Joe or I?  It ultimately fell short of meeting the requirements the second time when only certain issues needed to be complied with.  Yes, the Town officials whined when at the School Board Meeting SHE was to be closed, but should not the officials, the Town Manager, the Mayor and Vice Mayor have done something prior when the notices came out to repair SHE.  Either they loved and embraced failure or they just were not interested in saving SHE or starting a Charter School.

 

Then entered Tim Day who applied for the Town Manager’s position;  Tim Day had extensive Charter School experience and knew how to get around certain requirements such as nullifying the requirement of having 200 children attend by reason of providing specialty courses which would allow only some 170 students to attend.  Tim was an instructor for Firefighter school as well as prior Town Manager experience and an education which the Town Charter requires.  The excuse was made that there was bad publicity about Tim Day similar to all the bad publicity which was published in the newspaper about Joe.  Now Tim Day did not feel like taking suit against those that besmirched his name, mainly because of the costs involved but there was evidence that his record was cleared. Only one individual who wanted Tim’s job was to blame.  In Joe’s case, there were more than one individual who wished to silence Joe forever as well as me (Karin) so that the lawlessness and corruption by town officials could continue.  It is sad indeed however, because, here the Mayor had the opportunity to again get assistance to begin a charter school with Tim Day’s help.  So, there are two reasons this did not happen; either she was never serious about starting a Charter School or she could not choose someone Joe and Karin Griffin would recommend.  I believe it is the latter due to the fact that the Officials, even though they must pledge to follow the Laws of the State and the Constitution, they have no intention of doing so if it does not benefit them in some way.   Because of the alleged refusal to learn from past failures, the Children of White Springs will be transported twenty miles one way to school.

 

Then there is Walter McKenzie whose campaign was that he attended multiple meetings and of what good is it to attend something, if nothing happens, which may be considered successful as to the resultant?  Has there been improvement or is there rather extortion by McKenzie and his friends.

 

Let’s take the failed Broadband situation.  Walter was on the board and had to see that the NFBA was going down the hill immediately after its inception. Many of the municipality complaints stemmed from the fact that there was no real plan nor were there financials.  Understanding the difficulty of understanding the General Principals of Accounting by its officials and the fact that there have been no retained earnings for years, I can understand why the NFBA went down.  However, my point here is that if municipalities complained or would not join due to various reasons which were required of the NFBA to comply with had it wished to, it may have been a success rather than a failure.  But one thing we know about Walter and the Town officials is the fact that when it is “Other People’s Money”, there is less care.  They love spending other people’s money. It appears they do as they wish for their own egos rather than assisting the town.

 

Then there was the HOPE program.  The HOPE program is a program for children which fails and starts again and then faces failure again.  Part of the reason is that in order to please the special folks who are friends of the Mayor, they are paid extremely well and then the money runs out and it fails again.  Thus, volunteers will not give their time because why should they?  Others are paid and when the money runs out, they are asked to volunteer their time when they know others had been paid and those people apparently were in it to secure money.  And if the special strokes for special folks are not enough one must look at the actual character of those who were hired or were involved in the HOPE program.  Some of these individuals should not have been allowed to be around children.

 

We all have had our failures and in order to achieve success, it has been dependent upon our learning from our mistakes and trying and trying again to achieve the success we require.  My complaints regarding the Town Officials has always been that there is some type of ego going on whereby they do not feel they can make mistakes; they have to be right all the time otherwise they may lose face among their friends.  Now, no one is right all the time so it is ridiculous that they refuse to learn anything which is new and especially relating to following the laws of the State and the Federal Government.

 

Since we have not heard, we wonder if they ever have taken the State’s required ethics course and if they did, do they realize what they are doing wrong?  Perhaps they know better but they have been able to go on in the manner in which they have for years.  Had it not been for activists such as Griffins who spoil their opportunity to rule as they wish without consideration of its citizens, they could go on until they may bankrupt its citizens or the town.  No one official wishes to admit they are wrong but are the first to point fingers at others and if those fingers are not workable, they will fabricate lies and spew hate through their friends the Camels, the Satirist, the various anonymous writers and the supermen who honor them or are extorted in doing so because they may receive some sort of benefit.

 

Since I have moved here, I certainly can understand Joe’s frustration.  In fact many of our friends could not believe how Joe could have sustained the abuse by the Town for all of these years.  Yes, it has been frustrating for me as well.  I wrote only one request to the town and when there was no response, I gave it up early on and any request I may need (119) I ask Joe to secure the information (i.e. like the mandate which was found not to be a mandate for air cards).  Thank God one of the Griffins has patience.  It was never one of my virtues.

 

I have never met people like those who run our town in any of the towns I have lived nor in business.  If one is not liked in White Springs or is a threat in posing the truth about the Town’s corruption, the officials will cut their nose to spite their face in order to attack one with sheer vengeance.  They even now set a precedent that if one cannot prove something on an employment application or show copies of every diploma, one may be arrested and convicted for fraud; that is if you are not liked.  As to their friends, some of which have had multiple arrests, or ethics violations or violations of character, that will be acceptable as it has been in the past.  The more corruption the better!  To the town officials, I say, it is time to take responsibility for your failures, understand what went wrong and go on to achieve success for the benefit of the White Springs Citizens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Failure is Success

Brigette Hyacinth

Brigette Hyacinth

Director at MBA Caribbean Organization

Failure the Key to Success

  • Looking back as we approach another year end and tabulating whether my successes have been more than my failures. It’s clear that failure has left its imprint.

    The hardest blow came in the form of failing a major exam. The pain was crippling. It did knock me out for a bit. But after all, how do you climb back onto the saddle when the horse has flung you off: when your plans fall to pieces? Life will constantly test your resolve and level of commitment.

    If only we could have patience in the midst of our trials. Coping with rejection and apparent failure is a serious matter. The tragic death of John Kennedy Toole (American novelist born in 1937) screams this truth. No publisher would touch Toole’s book. He began suffering from paranoia and depression. In a vain attempt to kill the pain, he committed suicide at the age of 31. Toole’s novels were rejected during his lifetime. However, posthumously, he won the Pulitzer Prize in 1980.

    Never let Success get to your Head. Never let Failure get to your Heart.

    Many of us have stifled our life by heeding some misguided critic who implied we were not good enough. Few things in life are certain. But failure and rejection are.

    Failure seems as something to be avoided at all cost. Although it leaves a sour taste, we should embrace failure for the learning opportunity it is. Failure is the oldest teacher, and perhaps the wisest of them all. Some things are impossible to completely grasp without first falling down.

    Failure should be our teacher, not our undertaker. Failure is delay, not defeat. It is atemporary detour, not a dead end. Failure is something we can avoid only by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing.” ~Denis Waitley

    I would like to share 20 Powerful Quotes on failure that will inspire you to keep persevering.

    1. “You always pass failure on your way to success.” ~Mickey Rooney

    2. “A failure is a man who has blundered, but is not able to cash in the experience.” ~Elbert Hubbard

    3. “Failure is the tuition you pay for success.” ~Walter Brunell

    4. “Feeling sorry for yourself, and your present condition is not only a waste of energy but the worst habit you could possibly have. ~Dale Carnegie

    5. “Success represents the 1% of your work which results from the 99% that is called failure.” ~Soichiro Honda

    6. “The season of failure is the best time for sowing the seeds of success.” ~Paramahansa Yogananda

    7. “Success is not built on success. It’s built on failure. It’s built on frustration. Sometimes it’s built on catastrophe.” ~Sumner Redstone

    8. “Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor.” ~Truman Capote

    9. “There is no failure. Only feedback.” ~Robert Allen

    10. “Remember that failure is an event, not a person.” ~Zig ziglar


    11. “Failure will never overtake me if my determination to succeed is strong enough.” ~Og Mandino

    12. “Its fine to celebrate success but it is more important to heed the lessons of failure.” ~Bill Gates

    13. “Do not be embarrassed by your failures, learn from them and start again.” ~Richard Branson

    14. “I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can’t accept not trying.” ~Michael Jordan

    15.” Every adversity, every failure, every heartache carries with it the seed of an equal or greater benefit.” ~Napoleon Hill

    16. “Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.”~Henry Ford

    17.” My great concern is not whether you have failed, but whether you are content with your failure.” ~Abraham Lincoln

    18. “I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward.” ~Thomas Edison

    19. “Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat. “~F. Scott Fitzgerald

    20. Our best success often come after our greatest disappointments. ~Henry Ward Beecher

    Finally, don’t let the fear of failure hold you back.

    Remember to take risks: if you win, you will be happy; if you lose, you will be wise. Always find joy in your journey for as George Bailey said it best It’s a Wonderful Life!

    I wish you the very best in life, success and prosperity.

    I really appreciate that you are taking the time to read this post. Here are the other 14 posts I have written:

     

     

    It is through failure that individuals Learn

    Warren Buffett: A Profile in Failure

    The greatest people in history have been failures. Certainly, we remember these individuals as successes–success stories–and we treat those stories as legends and those individuals as gods. But each of them failed epically and repeatedly, more so than the combined successes of all of humanity.

    Failure should not be overlooked in anyone, especially not those we admire. It is through failure that these individuals were able to learn, grow and ultimately succeed. We know this about ourselves but even as we learn to accept our own failures, sometimes we don’t recognize that the most successful people in the world have had an abundance of failure.

    Our heroes need to be held to the same standard as the ancient Greek gods: awesome but not infallible. Failure is a humbling exercise, both for the observer and the observed. But learning is a humbling process. Once we realize that our heroes are just like us, we can examine how failure drives success. So I’ve started collecting stories about the failures of successful people, as a reminder that if you’re making mistakes and learning from them, you’re actually on the path to success.

    When you think of Warren Buffett, chances are the words “successful” and “rich” come to mind. Look no further than Wikipedia, which highlights Buffett as being “widely considered the most successful investor of the 20 century.” (Wikipedia may not always be the beacon of truth, but it is nonetheless accurate in this case.) Buffett is also known for his wisdom and patience, earning him saint-like nicknames such as “Oracle” and “Sage.” People make annual pilgrimages to Omaha just to hear him speak. But what many people don’t know is that his purchase of Berkshire Hathaway—his crowning achievement now worth over $300 billion—was an epic failure, driven by hubris and immaturity. Buffett once declared “I would have been better off if I’d never heard of Berkshire Hathaway.”

    Buffett’s involvement in Berkshire Hathaway started in 1962 as an investment similar to his other purchases. Analysts calculated the stock was worth $19.46 a share, but it could be bought for a mere $7.50, so Buffett bought some “cheap” stock, planning to sell it back to the company when the price rose. After a time, Berkshire’s President—Seabury Stanton—got wind of Buffett’s stock accumulation and called him to his Massachusetts office for a meeting. He asked at what price Buffett would be willing to sell, and Buffett said he’d sell for $11.50 a share if there was a tender offer.

    Shortly thereafter, Stanton issued a tender offer of $11.37 and a half cents per share. The young Buffett was livid; he felt that Stanton was trying to pull one over on him. Instead of renegotiating or holding his stock until a better offer came around, he started looking for more stock to buy. He vowed to buy a controlling interest in the company just so he could fire Seabury Stanton.

    Berkshire Hathaway in the 1960s was nothing like the powerful conglomerate it is today. It was a lowly textile company that imported raw cotton from the South and turned it into cloth. Before air conditioning was invented, Berkshire addressed an important need as mills had to be located far away from southern heat and humidity. But by the 1960s air conditioning was commonplace, labor was cheap in the South, and both labor and raw materials were even cheaper overseas. So by the time Buffett started buying stocks, New England textile mills were in dire straits, including Berkshire Hathaway.

    Yet Buffett was determined to own the company, driven by his disdain of Seabury Stanton. He convinced others to sell him their stock until he had collected enough to control the Board. Seabury, seeing the writing on the wall, resigned, and Buffett was elected Chairman of the Board and hired Seabury’s replacement. Despite new management, the textile mill continued to disintegrate. Buffett first poured money into it and ultimately tried to sell it, but no one would buy it. It ultimately shut down.

    Of course, by then Buffett had diversified its holdings, acquiring companies in different industries to keep Berkshire Hathaway afloat. But the original Berkshire Hathaway textile company was a huge mistake. In his biography, The Snowball, he put it this way:

    “You walk down the street and you see a cigar butt, and it’s kind of soggy and disgusting and repels you, but it’s free…and there may be one puff left in it. Berkshire didn’t have any more puffs. So all you had was a soggy cigar butt in your mouth. That was Berkshire Hathaway in 1965. I had a lot of money tied up in the cigar butt….I would have been better off if I’d never heard of Berkshire Hathaway.”

    Buffett made a series of poor decisions which forced him to fight his way through a hard lesson learned. He was stubbornly persistent, and rather than giving up and allowing Berkshire Hathaway to fail, he diversified the business into one of the greatest success stories in investor lore. What’s more, Buffett didn’t hide from this huge failure. To the contrary, he wore it as a badge of honor. He kept what is arguably a horrible brand name and it’s a reminder of his failure each and every day for the rest of his life. Buffett owned that failure, internalized it, and let it become a defining characteristic of the now supremely successful Berkshire Hathaway.

    Image Credit: Javier / Flickr

    Be sure to check out the other articles in the failure series:

    Bill Lawrence is at home in White Springs

     

     

    I decided to again look at the Bangor Daily News and the comments made regarding the Town officials and Mr. Lawrence.  This was due to the fact that Mr. Lawrence has been not answering our 119 requests in the manner prescribed and similar to Mike Williams, a previous council member who said Joe wrote too much in his complaints and dismissed them, Mr. Lawrence is contending he  does not understand Joe’s complaints.  I remember when writing the Defensive Driving Course book for the St. Paul Companies, I was told that I had to write on a “sixth grade level” because the average person does not understand multiple-syllable words.  So Joe diligently is trying to put together something that perhaps our Council will understand lol.

     

    Now the Town of White Springs has a problem with people who evoke their first amendment rights, especially Walter McKenzie who loves to run the show as the longest standing council member.  Since your feel our blog has been bad, perhaps you should check other political connections including the comments in the Bangor ME Newspaper.  I have to admit, the town fathers comment seems a bit like you and your cronies, Walter.  Well at least Bill Lawrence should feel at home in White Springs .

     

    westshores • 5 months ago

    A significant number of Maine towns are now controlled by a few town fathers who have little to no knowledge of education budgets, proper hiring practices, or even the basics of how local, state and federal governements interact with one another. Repeated in every region of our state, these people make a very big contribution to Maine’s faltering economy. Nothing can grow in these toxic gardens.

    And with no law to stop them from raising real estate taxes yearly, it is just becoming an obvious end game for the middle class we once had in Maine.

    Mike Kiernan • 5 months ago

    Bill Lawrence is going to be sorely missed, if for no other reason than his open and honest opinion’s when asked. He always either gave you a straight, total and honest answer, regardless if it made one feel uncomfortable, or he would get the answer to you, even if it meant he had to send you to see someone better able to do so. And in Maine, more so than a lot of other place’s, he didn’t give a dam about the ‘Speaking Truth to Power’ menusha. Such is the type open and honest type character of Maine Town Official’s, among other’s as well, that we have come to expect, and should have at all times.

    Have things changed?  Sometimes the answers seem vague.  Perhaps our Town officials now have control of Mr. Lawrence.

    EEl259  Mike Kiernan • 5 months ago

    I have read many of your remarks of the various discussions and had thought that you were of above average intelligence until now. At first I thought you might be a very close relative but I think it’s more to the fact and obvious that you don’t know Bill Lawrence as well as you think you do. The man lacks integrity and most certainly credibility. All one has to do is listen, maybe ask him management questions or just let him talk and he’ll tell you how smart he is, then you will know exactly how smart he is. You perhaps should review the definition of sociopath which should bring you to a different conclusion. In fact Bill is doing exactly what sociopaths do and that is not to drop your anchor for very long in any one port, a sense of self importance and lets not forget that everyone really wants his services (Such B.S.). Perhaps a review of his employment history would help you and you could start as close as Bangor. The story that Bill was highly sought after as the Bangor police chief was about as comical as it comes. There was a reason he was assigned as Bangor housing police liaison and it wasn’t for his honesty and openness. If you attended the Council meetings on a regular basis you would have noted the fact that Bill often had no clue often deferring to others on a regular basis. Kind of like being in quicksand up to your neck and not being smart enough to know you were in trouble. Again that would now answer the question as to why council members were pressing him for answers to questions he should have had the answers to. Bill is not innocent, he is a victim of karma. All one has to do is look back at his very questionable actions and ethics all the way back to Bill Reed. Bill Lawrence is a predatory opportunists that pretends to be your trusted co-worker, employee or employer until you know longer fit into his grand scheme. Which is “What can I do to make me look good and take all the credit of what others have done or helped to do”. By the way how can one have 5 to 10 year plans if you are constantly moving from one job to another ( access of 8). No Mike you perhaps should do more research before you attempt to enlighten all us not so dumb folk with your self absorbed dribble drabble. Bill will sorely be missed like a bad case of the flu.

     

    Since the Town officials seem to think we have hurt their reputations when we review background information on everything we write, perhaps they may assist Bill Lawrence in attempting a criminal suit against those making poor comments about him.

    Philip Parkington  EEl259 • 5 months ago

    Wow. You are a very obsessed person, there, EEI. Been off the meds much, lately? Seems to me that the T—- family is the one with the wild and lunatic temperment. No?

    lincolnmainer2  EEl259 • 5 months ago

    Is this John or his mommy?

    pit smith  EEl259 • 5 months ago

    You can’t be for real. All anyone needs to do is look at the way the council has treated most everyone in that town

    • SOUNDS LIKE WHITE SPRINGS TO ME BUT IT IS NOT EVERYONE TREATED BADLY BUT RATHER THE GRIFFINS WHO HAVE NO RIGHTS PER OUR TOWN OFFICIALS.

    Mike Kiernan  EEl259 • 5 months ago

    In all fairness to Bill and Lincoln as a whole, one needs to remember why Bill Lawrence was hired. He came on as Town Manager after the Bill Reid mess, that the Town Council created out of BS and ego, and wound up seeing Reid leave with A VERY HEALTHY CHUNK OF LINCOLN MONEY in his termination agreement, regardless of what you want to call it. Bill Lawrence came on, got the Public Safety Dept. finally working, even with the East Millinocket Ambulance issue being argued over, and has now gotten, if anyone want’s to go look, the BGS pipeline getting installed off 116 as we speak, He also got the business environment working, with the Dunkin and Collin’s business both coming on line soon, that’s going to generate both jobs but also revenue, as well as getting the traffic impact study done and paid for by the State DOT. And he did this all with a Town Council that seems to, at every turn, either want or expect Bill to be a rubber stamp for whoever’s crazy idea comes down the road at any given time. The Town Council’s responsibility is to govern thru local ordinance’s and set Town Policy. It IS NOT THEIR JOB TO DO DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT. That’s what Lawrence is for, despite all of the nitpicking he has to put up with. And as far as a 5 year plan, that type of planning is a part of every Town Manager’s job anywhere you go, that has to be coordinated with the Town Council but also the local business’s as far as Town impact goes. Go ask the MMA and they’ll tell you the same thing.

    And as far as Lawrence and his ‘nitpicking ‘comment’ goes, he’s being far, far more polite than I would have been. When the Town Council starts sticking it’s collective nose in to the Town Manager’s day to day’s then it’s time for a SERIOUS ‘SITDOWN’ with the Council and some very clear guidelines need to be established. Me personally, I’ve been thru this at the Federal level with a Agency head and told him in no uncertain term’s that if I’m the one to do the job then get out of the way and let me do it. That or or go find yourself a new ‘boy’ who’s willing to be bent over the sawhorse so you can get your jolly’s off whenever you feel the need. I didn’t make a lot of friend’s in the Agency headshed but I got the job done, usually on time and always under budget by using what was available to me, and not putting up with BS criteria that were put on me to set me up to fail from Jump 1. Lincoln’s going to miss Lawrence and it’s also going to find itself in jam if any new Town Manager applicant starts doing some serious research on Lincoln and it’s municipal history. A rapid change in Town Manager’s, such as Houlton is going thru right now, ala Gene Conlouge (with Butch Asselin filling in), is going to be seen and asked about and is a serious cause for any applicant to wonder just how much nitpicking they are going to have to put up with. Micromanagement is a sure fire HR killer and it’s not hard to see why. Question is will the Town Council see it or are they doomed to repeat what happened here, over and over ?

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    EEl259  Mike Kiernan • 5 months ago

    Much what you have stated in this reply is spot on however there are a few pieces of the puzzle that you’re missing. Bill Reid was not a good fit for Lincoln and you are correct, the council did create that no win situation. Reid didn’t help his position with his liberal spending versus a long entrenched ultra conservative fiscal practice. However this was one of those situations where Lawrence after buddying around with Reid saw an opportunity and embarked on a strategy of undermining Reid. Lawrence self-righteously ran to the councils three major players (Clay, Carr, Ring) who clearly did not like him and positioned himself as an option to fill a void about to be made. In Lawrence’s defense, he started off in an appropriate and effective way however it wasn’t long that Bill came under the influence of his inherent authority and power progressively suffering from the “Me Syndrome”. As far as the mistakes the council seems prone to repeat, there is no doubt due to ego and closed mindedness history will repeat itself. Lincoln seems unique to attracting managers that are capable of herding councilors activities their way. You seemed intent on believing that Bill operates with a high degree of integrity and credibility. I would encourage you to access opinions from current and past employees at all levels to obtain a more accurate representation of what is really going on and not what you may read about. There is no one outside of a few people that will miss Bill Lawrence and his practices of dissention throughout town government.managers that are capable of herding councilors activities their way. You seemed intent on believing that Bill operates with a high degree of integrity and credibility. I would encourage you to access opinions from current and past employees at all levels to obtain a more accurate representation of what is really going on and not what you may read about. There is no one outside of a few people that will miss Bill Lawrence and his practices of dissention throughout town government.

    You sound about as mad as a drunk cop jumping up and down on the hood of a police cruiser.

    Rob Franklin  Mike Kiernan • 5 months ago

    You seem to think that Lawrence somehow didn’t know how the politics of Lincoln worked before he stepped into some mess. Lawrence may not have caused the problems in Lincoln that preceded him, but he was the first to jump at the opportunity to sink the dagger into everyone he could to get ahead. et tu Brute?

    pit smith  Mike Kiernan • 5 months ago

    It’s the same thing over and over. Things won’t change there until they clean out the management from the top on down. The towns people need to act or more of the same.

    talkingtrashagain • 5 months ago

    What in the heck is going on in the small towns, they can not keep a manager. Seems like a good gig $70,000.00 a year!!!! Sinking ship I guess-bail out.

     

    ESPECIALLY WHEN MR. LAWRENCE TOOK SUCH AN ENORMOUS PAY CUT AND EVEN PAID TO MOVE HIS FAMILY.

    westshores  talkingtrashagain • 5 months ago

    How much does that 70k job pay per hour? Subract the brain damge inflicted while dealing with all the local village idiots and the net gain is certainly not worth the effort. The citizens of Lincoln and other Maine towns deserve better. Even a new McDonalds manager must attend a two week course at their University. Town councilors/selectmen should have to have some reasonable education or qualifications as well as term and age limits.

    Thomas Knight  talkingtrashagain • 5 months ago

    They can’t do anything right and are always out to get us, and we know what they’re up to, and those few who pull the strings, and…. And…..

    pit smith  talkingtrashagain • 5 months ago

    It’s the council. These people cut public safety by cutting a fireman so now there is only one fireman on duty for somewhere around 16 shifts a month. on July 1 the call back fireman was a town away thats 15 or 20 minutes away.They jeopardize the people of town to save money to put into a road at the airport to aid how many? How about this new center turn lane? The council has been handling with Maine D.O.T. This will help 10 more business lots on West Broadway the reason is they say the town lost out on development because the prospective investors refused to pay the impact fees well isn’t that special.How much is this going to cost? The impact fees range from 70$ to 250,000$ depending on the size of the business story has the cost around 1,000,000$ so these people think it’s right to jeopardize public safety to subsidize business. You wonder why towns cant keep a manager?How would you like to work for this bunch? Glad it’s not my tax money.

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    • At least with this comment, I know why Bill Lawrence does not consider the fire department as important as the police department.

    Thomas Knight • 5 months ago

    I don’t know where he won’t be nit-picked. It is hard to work in the public sector. If he thinks the Florida rednecks will be an easy bunch, he’ll soon wake up. I do wish him well.

    EEl259  Thomas Knight • 5 months ago

    He lived in Florida for a time and returned to Maine. The dream of Florida retirement or being near his wife’s parents are not the issue as he immediate family in the Bangor area. He’s blowing smoke in an attempt to justify in his mind the actions he’s about to take. People like Bill need to have their “Me Meter” pegged, like to be the center of attention, have an unrealistic belief that everyone wants and/or needs him or several other symptoms of a social path. The walls are closing around him, people have figured him out and he’s identified the need to move on. Get far enough away and no one there knows who you are and you don’t have to face the people you screwed by being incompetent. The council will not do or say anything negative because it reflects poorly on their decision making process and everyone know how effective some those have been.

    pit smith  Thomas Knight • 5 months ago

    They won’t be half as bad. How many town managers has Lincoln had in the last few years? This has to be some kind of record. They all could not have been that bad.The problem is still there.

    NewtoME • 5 months ago

    No state income tax, I guess, is that the draw???

    MeCruzingMaine • 5 months ago

    The “Ship” is sinking!

    pattenpond • 5 months ago

    For whatever anybodys opinion of anyone is, it is clear that, with the price of heating oil, car registrations, car inspections, housing, real estate taxes, there is not much anymore to hold anyone here in Maine. $70,000 would go a lot further in Florida. If one is to be broke, it would seem rather better than to be broke where one does not freeze to death. After last winter, and with a totally out of control Governor, Maine, is becoming a damn tough row to hoe.

    pit smith  pattenpond • 5 months ago

    The problem here is not the Governor

    pattenpond  pit smith • 5 months ago

    That is arguable.

    Cassie • 5 months ago

    What is the obsession with retiring to Florida? It is nasty there.

    Cranky_Yankee  Cassie • 5 months ago

    Everyone is running to Flori-duh so that they can retire to paradise. The problem is, they paved over paradise in the 1970s, the groundwater is now saltwater, to drive one mile takes over and hour, you have to have year-round air conditioning because in most places the air is so foul that you can’t breathe.

    pit smith  Cassie • 5 months ago

    To get as far from this mess as one can.

    • BY COMPARING THE GOVERNMENT OF TWO TOWNS, Lincoln and White Springs IT IS OBVIOUS THAT BILL LAWRENCE IS AT HOME WITH THE WHITE SPRINGS POLITICS.